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00:00.00
wildremedies
Dr. Haile Michaelson I am so so so excited to see your face again. It has been so long so long. Ah, oh my gosh. Okay, so a little bit of context to people who are listening when I first moved to cologna.

00:07.00
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, it's exciting to be here.

00:19.67
wildremedies
Was it like four years ago I stumbled into your office when you were still practicing natro trafficic doctor which you are not doing that anymore which is wild and you were just so amazing and you had the best energy and just.

00:28.60
Haile Michaelson
Yep anymore? No yeah, yep.

00:38.10
wildremedies
Ah, such wonderful healing vibes and we work together for a little bit and then you went through huge transformation I've been going through a huge transformation. It's so much and dow we get to connect again and I'm so excited to like catch up of um, what's gone on the past few years it's

00:41.74
Haile Michaelson
O.

00:50.28
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, awesome. Yeah me too. Yeah, awesome. So awesome! Krista.

00:59.28
wildremedies
Ah, well I mean maybe we could get started there and just talk about some of this transformation or at least give people kind of um I guess a glimpse into your background into how you you.

01:07.83
Haile Michaelson
Now.

01:11.53
wildremedies
How you got into doing what you're doing and some of those big jumps and leaps and things that you've made recently.

01:17.11
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, sure. Thank you I think you know most of the time I talk about how as a practitioner I felt that there are missing pieces and there was a missing piece in my work and kept getting drawn to finding out more and more and more you know as much as I possibly could about healing. Um, but for me, it actually started even like when I was younger. Um, knowing that I was intuitive and highly sensitive and extremely introverted and aware of a lot of the vibrations and the things around me um and only learning more about them and and having somebody help me with all of that when I was you know a teenager. Um, and. Sort of that pull and that understanding that there was more to the experience in life even in life in a body that was so much more sensory and more about you know intuition and how we could pick up on more and and shut it down less. It took me towards this whole quest um to figure out how to incorporate that at the same time that I went through my own. Like pains and things as a teenager and and eating disorder and things that really sparked interest in healing and the 2 came together really um in that after practicing naturopathic medicine for 10 years noticing that the clients that we could empower the most with intuition and who were naturally intuitive or who I I could teach some intuition to really could choose their. Protocols and their situations and their daily food and everything their supplements their sessions. What therapies they needed. They could choose them better and so the more that I could empower people to become intuitive the more they would heal and the deeper they would go and at the same time that was happening I was still doing other work within retreats and intuition and.

02:48.75
Haile Michaelson
Noticing that there's a whole layer to healing that it has to do with the soul and this is not to do with religion. It's it's really literally just the energy structure right? Like we're a physical structure and an energy structure and that energy structure hasn't really been addressed well in medicine or in healing paradigms. We've done mind bodyy medicine but we haven't really done mind body soul. So the 2 things collided and it left me just feeling like it was just time to figure out how to teach more people to become intuitive but also how to teach more practitioners to take in soul level work in their own way completely separate to religion. Just. Their own way of understanding soul level healing and my obsession and sort of like my favorite thing is to break things down as small as possible and as easy as possible for learners to take them in so soulstorm was created in a very stepwise structured tangible way to teach intuition and then. Like subconscious mind and soul healing which is the same thing like hypnotherapy and then soul journey hypnotherapy where we could heal parts of the soul. Um, so it goes from you know Kindergarten and learning intuition all the way up to really really high level soul healing work. Yeah, and my life has followed that I would say it just.

03:56.60
wildremedies
Um.

03:59.92
wildremedies
Next.

04:01.74
Haile Michaelson
Been the same transition for me that you know people go through the stretch and I felt it too as I learned and the way that I operate is I just listened to like my own guides and my own team really for the way that these things need to be taught which is why Soul strong doesn't feel like mine and the content doesn't even it feels like these beings that needed to get it through me. But. The same thing happened to me as I learned it and was taught it and how to teach it and practiced it with clients in Soul journey and things as I was stretched really hard and went through huge transitions in the last while so starting with ending medicine and a couple years of teaching intuition and then moving into soul journey work stretched me into huge transitions and. Sort of like accelerates all the things you need to go through and which we can talk about a little bit as well. But I've been through huge stretch lately like you can you name it I've had to let it go. Um, yeah, and just arrive here and then now. Yeah yeah, yeah.

04:51.57
wildremedies
Um, yeah I love that you call it stretching um in a period of that right now too and it just feels like you're being ripped in my every direction. Yeah.

04:57.48
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, all the directions. Yeah right? Yeah yeah, sometimes it has a sensation like you mentioned burning right? it it feels sometimes like things are there's just some kind of paradigm there. But I find like the base of it or if you want to call it like the in Buddhism suffering and things.

05:08.29
wildremedies
Um.

05:15.81
Haile Michaelson
The base of that feels to me like a stretch is happening because even negative emotions um like pain and um like intensive fears or anxiety are things that we avoid, um, still if we go towards them even just a little bit. We start stretching right.

05:19.19
wildremedies
Um.

05:32.90
wildremedies
Um, he.

05:32.55
Haile Michaelson
And the reason is because as we get closer and closer to the Epicenter of an emotion. The more information is there about alignment and so the more we can use it to grow and stretch but they feel the same in that process for people it feels like growth and stretching and anything outside of our comfort zone is just so so difficult sometimes right.

05:51.27
wildremedies
Um, yeah, you know what? what? I'm noticing with the process that I'm going through right now because I you know I don't know if it's just my life path or whatever but I've had many many challenging periods in my life and I deal with them in ah in a much different way than I used to it used to be much more destructive.

05:51.61
Haile Michaelson
Yeah.

06:07.15
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yep.

06:08.65
wildremedies
And now it's like okay you know through working with intuitive people like yourself and communicating with my guides and having an understanding of the reason of the processes that I'm currently going through and you know tying it into astrology and being like okay there's I see why there's some hard energy going on here like. I can rationalize all of those things and so I feel like being in a difficult space right now for me feels not as anxious as it used to be.. There's like a trusting that can you know that that I'm falling into and it feels less scary in that sense.

06:28.40
Haile Michaelson
Yeah.

06:39.60
Haile Michaelson
And.

06:47.81
wildremedies
But um, it's it's still processing through me through the physical. So my body is just like whoa like this is this is hard So my mind's like ha ha like you know.

06:51.37
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah.

07:01.26
wildremedies
I remember I think I posted something on Instagram like I saw like some of these hard things starting to manifest in my life and I was just like break it on universe like I've been through this shit before like you can't take me down and you know mentally I have felt like quite strong and resilient. But it's still getting me another way right? and it's to the point where I'm having a hard time getting out of bed right now like just physically my body's just like on fire. Yeah, so it's like you still you still have to go through it like there's still a process that that that happens even if it's not in the same way that it's.

07:18.38
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, yep, yep yeah.

07:35.99
wildremedies
It's happened before and maybe you are moving through it in a more healthy way you still you still feel it.

07:38.40
Haile Michaelson
Yeah,, that's right, Yeah for sure. But that is the body. That's the nature of the body like sometimes I think about it because we're busy teaching these high levelve stuff Soul journey and intuition and stuff and the way that I teach everything is that the body- to Soul Interface is what matters. And I even I sort of joke that there's no mind like mind it shouldn't be mind body soul. It's just body soul. Um, because at to a point like the embodied experience of being here. Everything revolves around the body and and we don't listen to soul by opening the Crown Chakra and just opening a third eye.. It's not a magical you know Vapid experience.

08:00.60
wildremedies
A.

08:17.26
Haile Michaelson
When you learn to listen to soul with us at soul strongng you learn very quickly that it's all about the body and that's why I was a doctor you know I often had this process where just like why did I do this like why did I pay two hundred and twenty thousand dollars to go to med school and do all this stuff and practice clinically when my passion has always been soul like was I I was. Ah, closeted psychic for sure but was that what kept me from being out in the world as an intuitive or what happened and I always come back to like it's because a lot of soul practitioners and people teaching alignment and even emotional wellness and resilience and you name it all the things they're still mostly talking about emotions mental mind. And even intuition to a point and sometimes soul and they're forgetting the body right? and so it's like when you when you do that you you end up sometimes in that place where the body catches up to you and the body says no right? like Gabo mate's work we just it this body says no eventually when we're not listening but even.

09:06.69
wildremedies
Are.

09:13.36
Haile Michaelson
Even more acutely I find than that is if we approach it in a way that's like let's just listen to body like what would happen if you just listened to your body for seven days and did anything body wanted and really respected the body just for a short period like that while everything changes and guess what happens intuition gets louder because intuition the language of the soul and intuition is. Symptoms sensations. It's all things to do with the body and yes it can be imagination in things but that's a construct within the mind and the body and the brain. So our experience of listening to soul in the way to access intuition and to listen and find your alignment like where do you turn now if everything's on fire and the body's catching up to you. Need to go in and ask what's the alignment here for you right? like where do where do we need to point you and what's next for you and what? what can we learn from this experience of the body catching up to you or the feeling of being on fire or the massive stretch like there's so many golden nuggets in there for people to find their alignment but we have to listen to it. From the body you know so like when we just listen to symptoms sensations and experiences but we go into them. We don't just say okay I'm uncomfortable I'm here I'm listening I'm present and I'm meditating. It's not even just that it's actually to then go into the sensation like imagine traveling inside it and look for insight like ask it.

10:13.90
wildremedies
Um, the.

10:30.50
Haile Michaelson
Ask the fire that you feel or the really uncomfortable stretch that lives in the solar plexus or like the anxiety in the chest. What do you got from me like what where is the alignment within this sensation or this emotion or the symptom right? P Sooria's skin stuff. What do you got? you know? where's the alignment here.

10:39.68
wildremedies
Um e.

10:48.91
Haile Michaelson
Body is interfacing with soul and body saying this experience that I'm feeling and this location in this in this present time and space is is either aligned for me or it's not and the soul is going to feed back and say here's your gut feeling that you need to move to a different city here's your gut sensation that a different relationship is waiting for you. Like here's what I'm going to tell you and soul is trying to shape you and guide you into the right alignment track. But it's interfacing that that whole system with the body. So when people come in in their hut. They're used to being in their bodies and they're quite embodied and all of that I still get them to press deeper into the body. It's like an infinite oasis of of like beautiful alignment data to tell your soul where are we at and so that the soul can tell back. Well this is where we need to go so the body it's like that exact sensation I would take you in there probably through Hypnotherapy you know Krista.

11:35.12
wildremedies
E.

11:44.42
Haile Michaelson
Like let you go into the sensation and let the insight of it arise right? Like what who is it that you what is it? you need to listen to is it someone you need to talk to or a business decision or more rest or what kind of rest or different things and sometimes people know about 20% of that they're like I know I need to stop drinking wine I know I need to do X y z. But there's still 80%. That's so deep in that subconscious space of the soul and stuff that it's like what what about the deeper the deeper stuff. Yeah, totally yeah and so many people are dealing with that right now I think like we were meant we were talking about post Covid you know Covid put them into this like they touched into they got real still because they had to.

12:09.86
wildremedies
And yeah, yeah.

12:24.11
Haile Michaelson
And then they touched into a little more in the body and and the intuition and soul space a little bit more about alignment but they had some fight or flight going I think at the same time so they couldn't really let it come through. Let it act on it and then now that the fight orf flight is gone and everybody's kind of like okay. They still touched into that space and that space is still talking to them so they're like okay this doesn't feel right anymore and this doesn't feel right and this doesn't feel right and this doesn't feel right? But I'm a little not sure what would feel right? or where to go or what to do and that's where people need to become empowered with intuition and every time there's been these spiritual expansion. Within within the world and things it often has like come right after some kind of huge huge event like some kind of pandemic or a huge shift politically. So I think it's like the shift and all of that starts to have people wake up and then the waking up is where we need to help them go next right? like the real real listening. Yeah.

13:14.69
wildremedies
Um, yeah, absolutely yeah because I mean it can just feel uncomfortable to be like this phrase that I say all the time I want something but I don't know what I need something but what right? it's just like that feeling like do I need a snack.

13:17.73
Haile Michaelson
Here.

13:25.20
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, right? Yeah yeah, yeah.

13:31.83
wildremedies
Do I need to light a match to my house and move to Portugal like I don't fucking know but I just know that I feel real uncomfortable right now and something needs to change.

13:35.99
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, exactly Yeah, totally right? And that's what I mean it's like if people touched into that even more and they're like this is definitely not right for me. But what is it like what do we do right? and where do we go and that missing piece I call that the missing piece. That's what.

13:49.51
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

13:54.67
Haile Michaelson
That's what I see in practitioners too same right? like all the practitioners listening you can probably relate to that. It's like I know I could take people farther and deeper somehow I got to take another course I have to find another thing and that that's exactly what I wanted to address at soulsterring by teaching subconscious work and soul level work because and intuition they're the missing pieces. But they're the missing piecess for you too and me too and everybody when we're like I don't know what I need I Just know I need something. It's like a calling forward of something of disalignment or alignment right? Disalign is either pushing you to to wake up or alignment is calling you to wake up but the waking up part is like what.

14:17.35
wildremedies
He he.

14:31.88
Haile Michaelson
Right? It's so hard for people to understand how and what to do right? But there there is actually a pathway like there's a way to just teach this step by step and you could learn it Too. You knowsa, You're like the the feeling you have right now starts to be like I've got this right? I know I've got this I'm just gonna. Be in this process and start to listen more and more and then I'm going to know I just going to know and that confidence within self is everything like every difficult thing that I've been through and recently it was everything like I said every single thing had to be let go of and that was for me the biggest like not test. But. Experience of sitting in that feeling of like I'm going to trust that I'm going to know when I know right half the time we want answers right away and we want to know exactly what to do right now but actually a lot of souls are here to practice patience when we take them into soul space but just like the space kind of between lives where the soul is sort of in its origin energy. Get to talk to the soul council and we get to find out more about the person's purpose and calling and everybody thinks what's my purpose and they think doing what am I here to build or do or heal or fix. But actually when I started this work I was just shocked by how many people are actually here just to experience. Love. Or Heal a karmic bond with someone like a twin flame or something or here to practice patience I've got that one and it's like what like this can't be why I'm here to just do this right? like I have colleagues that have to do with teaching and all this other stuff but part of it for me was also being in in an experience of deep transformative. Love.

16:02.53
Haile Michaelson
Which we could do a whole podcast episode on but and also part of it was to practice patients and I see a lot of those virtues that people are the soul that is just here to fine tune and work on so I've learned from that as well. Yes, we want to know the answer right now. But what if we're actually supposed to sit in it for a while for a reason and we're going to know what to do with the business or the life or the relationship. Or whatever it is in about two months and those two months have so much gold in them. We waste our we waste our space and our time just looping around of what to do what to do because we actually aren't being called to do right now we're being called to practice something the thing is once we have that insight. We can sit in it very much more easily because we can sit and say this is what I'm supposed to be doing right now. There is no doing right now and it's very uncomfortable but it's less uncomfortable when you know you're still in alignment right? that you're not supposed to be freaking out and acting you're just supposed to be in it right? and those 2 things are different. They're hard to kind of put your finger on. But.

16:54.38
wildremedies
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tough and like even if you do know and you know you are in alignment like it. It can still be difficult like the current.

16:57.32
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah.

17:03.66
Haile Michaelson
Huge.

17:06.36
wildremedies
Situation that I'm facing right now. What from the outside what it looks like is a complete undoing of one of my businesses right? and I have people in my business that I'm trying to calm down.

17:13.18
Haile Michaelson
Yeah.

17:23.83
Haile Michaelson
Down o.

17:25.30
wildremedies
And be like we're playing a soul game here. We're playing the God game like I have trust I'm not freaking out I know everyone else's right now I know what's happening on the other side of this. Yes, It's really uncomfortable. Yes, we're gonna have to deal with a lot of shit that nobody wants to deal with right now, especially not me but I know that there's something on the other side I don't know what it looks like I don't know how this is gonna happen and that's not my job to know my know or my job is.

17:58.77
Haile Michaelson
Oh.

17:59.10
wildremedies
To trust and it's been weeks and weeks of just like living in the space of like oh my god what is happening like everything is on fire and more things and I'd like I just keep we keep getting brought deeper with more things falling apart but then a little Ray of sun peeks. Its head out. And you're like really is this is this actually happening like if there's some light at the end of this shuttle and that gets like a little bit bigger and then in the end and I'm not o quite there yet. But I know that it's gonna be just something so wonderful. That.

18:19.25
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

18:38.13
wildremedies
You know moves moves me into alignment into something that I that that is so much bigger and more potent and more aligned with what my soul came here to do but it's still tough right? and especially when you got it calmed out everybody else around you too. You know it's.

18:51.31
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly it's so tough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, although Humans innately know what you just said I find that like healing has a ah formula like to heal something it needs to arise it needs to be.

18:57.58
wildremedies
It's quite well. Yeah.

19:09.51
Haile Michaelson
Experienced to an extent and it needs to be let go of in order to make space for the new way and hypnotherapy That's all essentially whether we work with inner child or we do a regression to a pastime or a memory or some kind of insight. It's all the same at that point is that we've allowed something to arise.

19:12.18
wildremedies
Easy.

19:26.94
Haile Michaelson
And the subconscious drives that ship. Hopefully if the practitioner is doing a good job and the subconscious tells you what's first in that therapeutic healing order. Um, but once it's arisen like and then you can look look at it and trust that's how we heal we don't heal. We can't heal in that way of like planting seeds first. And pressing them through all the other we have to let things arise and let them go to make space for healing and growth and expansion is the same it's the same formula it's we need to let go in order to make space to allow healing always and allow the new way and Hypnotherapy is always the subconscious mind which is the soul. Always is. There's an there's an old way that's now blocking the person from where they need to go and there's a new way and the new way is usually apparent to them in some ways in their speech and things they tell you a little bit about it like how they would like to feel or what they'd like to feel instead or how the next chapter for their business or their team is bigger and they sometimes have that insight. But we still have to. Do a process there to allow the old way to be let go of because if we don't make space in the new way. It doesn't have space. It just doesn't arise right? So it's it's funny I tell the hypnothertherropists in training when they're like I forgot this part of that parts therapy and I forgot to do this thing with inner child and all the things in the session.

20:30.23
wildremedies
Are.

20:42.86
Haile Michaelson
Was no good or something and I review the session and or we talk about it or it's live or we're doing it together and I always tell them as long as you let the subconscious rise up but it wants to let go of and you help them let it go and you accentuate making space to allow the new way and you tell the subconscious that the new way is now the new way is there. And it's so easy. How long does that take it takes 4 minutes and it's so powerful and we can do that to ourselves we can trust like you said that we are making space and that that all by itself is everything like I did a thirty day retreat when I was in my twenty s twice in the winter in Colorado and we worked a space and the awareness of space. And that process is what taught me that space and making space is more powerful sometimes than any of the doing and any of the manifesting and any of the other things because space is where we let the things that need to come through come through but it's hard. And you're onto that like that's what your team needs to hear too right? is that this is what we're doing here. We're trusting and we're not panicking because we're going to trust that space is being made and out of space arises infinite anything infinite alignment infinite good things infinite abundance. Whatever right.

21:40.43
wildremedies
Are you.

21:56.38
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

21:57.15
Haile Michaelson
So space is the thing but isn't space uncomfortable. We like to hide and we like to be comfortable and we like to have mental mind loves to know the plan because it feels like the plan is going to make everything safe right? Yeah yeah.

22:06.20
wildremedies
Um, yeah, but yeah I know could ah you know thoughts that are have arisen a lot for me is like well what? what do I do But what? what do I do about this like I should be doing something you know in the beginning it was like that and then I got.

22:18.85
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally yeah because it's safe insecure. We just feel like it is right half of the.

22:22.46
wildremedies
I was like I know this is not a time for doing but we do that right? We're just like how do I fix it like what do I like that be something that I can do.

22:34.80
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

22:36.69
Haile Michaelson
Half of the things are letting mental mind breaking down the mental mind and working with mental mind moving to the background and opening up spaces that have nothing to do with mental mind because it's so heavily blocking which is an interesting Why like why are we born with that whole setup and that whole parenting and the whole thing with community and shame and.

22:47.36
wildremedies
Um, me.

22:54.53
Haile Michaelson
And this obsession with belonging and love and stuff like it comes from the soul but it also turns into a whole bunch of fear right? and a whole bunch of core beliefs that things aren't okay and that we need to control everything as much as possible and we need to do and like it just goes on and on and it's all mental mind. So why are we born like that to go through that to then.

23:07.82
wildremedies
See.

23:12.62
Haile Michaelson
Need to undo it to awaken right? It's like yeah yeah, yeah I dream I have kids I daydream all the time I'm like how could we undo all of the things that are doing right now to them like before they even happen. How can I undo them or but maybe it's just where we're at culturally too right? It's just how it is.

23:13.24
wildremedies
Um, like seriously why it's it's It's really annoying.

23:32.34
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, but it's good.

23:33.48
wildremedies
Um, yeah, yeah, that always interesting that you said the subconscious mind is soul and is is that the same as intuition.

23:37.59
Haile Michaelson
Who Yeah, the soul intuition is like the language of the soul right? It's like it's like the essence of the wisdom right? and the communication there is like how we listen the way. That's the way I view intuition right? It's that empowered sense of knowing.

23:47.80
wildremedies
Um, a.

23:56.15
Haile Michaelson
But knowing it means you know it which means you're listening to it and the soul itself the way I see it is like so awake that the subconscious mind is always awake and the soul is awake and the mental mind Falls asleep at night. But the subconscious mind is always awake and when we have.

23:57.43
wildremedies
He.

24:13.45
Haile Michaelson
An ability just through gentle like Hypnotherapy guided meditation really um to just move mental mind to the background even 50% so mental mind is still engaged in watching. We access the wisdom of that energy structure of the soul and we hear intuition and we start to understand that and. What people haven't really realized is the subconscious mind I think they call it a mind because it's a wisdom so they feel like oh this must be a mind. Um, but it's just the soul. It's just people aren't quite ready for that word and they're not quite ready for things and not sure how it could work with religion. Ah, but what they need to do is put it all down and just understand that they have an energy structure and that thing has wisdom and that's part of what's guiding them forward and accessing. That is how how do we access that we have to move mental mind aside like we were just talking about. We have to move mental mind aside and get and tap into that space and that that whole realm.

24:58.64
wildremedies
Are.

25:07.11
Haile Michaelson
Which is just the subconscious realm and so it can be done negatively and there's like a lot of therapists still trained a lot of the old Uk style and stuff that's negative suggestive therapy where they're in there and they're saying negative things because when we're in that space. The soul is like listening and it's very taking everything in it's very porous. So there's ways to do it very badly I think.

25:25.31
wildremedies
Are.

25:26.86
Haile Michaelson
You know, but that's part of what soul strong is doing is taking it forward in a gentle intuitive way and taking it farther and higher into soul spaces and things. Um, but it is the soul like as much as much as like sometimes depending on who we're like do we avoid saying soul today like even though we're soul strong like but it it really is the soul and. That has nothing to do with any dogma It's just the energy structure and that's all we're getting at really with soul strong as well. Um, but the very cool thing is that that's not hard to access. This is not like really in some ways mediumship and psychic work and all of that is a way farther stretch to teach and take in and. Let the mental mind wrap head around it and stuff with the soul stuff in Hypnotherapy It's so gentle and it's so easy to access deep core beliefs that we didn't know we had It's so easy to access the soul's desires like soldier need is exploding for us right now because people are like wait a second you can tell me my purpose and we're like you're going to tell you your purpose and yeah, we'll just take you there. And you'll find out we'll take you to the right place to talk to your guides and your situation and your data and find out what you're doing here and what you want to do here. Um, and it's so transformative and so powerful when we activate the person's soul frequency like imagine your body has a frequency and your personality and the trauma and the pains and this current time and space have frequencies. And you have a soul frequency and it's all your frequency. But imagine if I could just take away like transparencies of the frequencies of the body and your personality and your mental mind and what's happened to you and you're left with your soul vibration like just just who are you as a soul and then I said to you I'm going to teach you how to fully know what that feels like and activate it at night.

27:06.22
Haile Michaelson
Every day and turn it back on when it fades into the other vibrations and gets mixed up with other things. What happens is it's like a little magnet in there that just turns on and everything the soul wants to experience shows up and mental mind thought that you needed to manifest money and the man and the things maybe and people are manifesting but they're still trying usually. Not manifesting in full flow this kind of manifestation often has nothing to do with mental mind like my soul mate walked in and it was a woman and I didn't know that I wanted to be with a woman I was married and went through this huge transition and all the things and there was like the love of my life and all the feelings around it and everything that I went through but I didn't know that and mental mind never told me. That's what I wanted like I had no clue some of the desires that my soul had and that whole relationship and that entire experience is because my soul is here to experience that with her and we have a whole history on that and it's part of the work that needs to be done in the world right now is on love and a new kind of love I think but that. Is a great Example. It's probably the most extreme example of turning on your soul vibration and that magnet and your soul just saying okay well this is what I am calling towards me now that I'm vibrating Pure. It's this and it's this and this is this is the thing and this is the thing and all the rest needs to go and it can happen really fast. So. When we do Soul Journey We like prepare people and we we work with them after and we coach them and some of the practitioners are like should we tell everyone they're going to divorce in this process because we see it so often for like no, we're not going to say that but that's so common and it's not because it's ah you know a shaker and a mover in the wrong way.

28:34.88
wildremedies
Um.

28:42.73
Haile Michaelson
It's because it's in the right way. It's because people aren't experiencing deep love and they're not connecting with their partners and things and so like the soul is just like well that's the end of that I need to be with someone who's like fully supporting my journey or whatever. So There's huge chaos that ensues but also so much beautiful alignment because it's like what the soul is here to experience. So We don't We don't always know what those things are in mental mind but when we start to work through that hypnotherapy work and Soul journey. Well it just starts to turn everything on that the soul is here for and it feels so good because that's what we're here for like whether you know whether mental mind knows what you're here for or not if you start just like.

29:14.96
wildremedies
Are.

29:21.69
Haile Michaelson
That process and that stuff is coming towards you it feels incredible. It's difficult but incredible because you're you're in the flow of like your deepest part of you of what it wants to experience. Yeah, does that make sense. Yeah, it's intense. But.

29:33.67
wildremedies
Um, oh my gosh. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah transformation ah is just so much more potent when satisfying when.

29:37.44
Haile Michaelson
Beautiful, right and powerful. Yeah.

29:50.26
wildremedies
You can just feel it deep within yourself that this is what you're meant to do.

29:53.31
Haile Michaelson
Right? Yeah, even the the hardest things in life when people know that it's like really aligned for them. They travel through it with so much more resilience and so much more confidence and that doesn't mean it doesn't have pain. It doesn't mean it doesn't have like.

30:05.83
wildremedies
Business.

30:10.13
Haile Michaelson
Endless amounts of that feeling of like grief loss pain letting go but it it just feels completely different when we have that trust and we've hurt like we've heard ourselves explain to us that this is right? you know and that's so beautiful. Imagine if everyone was connected to their wisdom and was listening to soul and traveling forward like that. And doing their best with other people I guess you could say but at least knowing that what they were doing was aligned for them. They would feel so much more inner peace and they would feel like so much more confident and resilient in general and it would be painful Still I'm sure to be in the body. It's.

30:35.69
wildremedies
Um e.

30:47.26
Haile Michaelson
Been so much pain for me my my life has been lots of suffering lots of pain. So I understand a lot of that but I also know that the more that I listen the more I'm equipped with this strange kind of like a bounce back feeling where I'm like this is really painful and I'm really sensitive. So yeah and but also I'm in it in the right channel.

30:57.36
wildremedies
Are the.

31:07.11
Haile Michaelson
Right? And so yeah and that little bit of light. You mentioned I keep thinking of that like as we talk because it reminds me so much of there's like this funny thing that happens to me where I start to feel like that's it I've lost it like my capacity's done like I can't I'm not listening anymore. We're not doing anymore retreats I'm not doing this work anymore. It's too stretchy.

31:07.59
wildremedies
Um, you know.

31:19.40
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

31:26.56
Haile Michaelson
It rips me apart too much and it causes too much chaos like I'm out and then I avoid for a while I do some weird things like I just do life for a while and usually something really funny happens like a big tunnel of rain happens where like a foot to the to the right,, There's no rain and a foot to the left.. There's no rain or like snow or something these tunnels or it's really dark out and like. Big light shines in my face or the the oncoming traffic or something just hits me in a way that makes me almost shake with light or something and I'm always like ah there's always this message. That's like this is the light like you're going in the right direction and everything is well. You just need to stay focused and turn to that direction and keep listening right and keep. Keep following that little bit and those moments I find like they arise when we've been thinking about or talking about the correct Direction. So like I think this is right for the business right? and then like a bit of light shines through the window or something happens right? and you're like okay yeah, right? Yeah yeah, so.

32:13.79
wildremedies
Um.

32:17.68
wildremedies
Seriously, yeah, it's wild and how that happens is through intuition like I had a big aha the other day literally was like a week ago oh my god this shit was so crazy and so magical and awesome. But like I woke up.

32:23.63
Haile Michaelson
Say.

32:37.63
wildremedies
And had a bunch of thoughts fled through my mind and I was just like oh my God I was doing a whole bunch of stuff wrong and I need to sell a piece in my business or the whole business or something like they just all all of these ideas came through and it just felt like.

32:52.36
Haile Michaelson
Kept.

32:57.29
wildremedies
And total alignment I don't know what this is going to look like but there was just there was just a big energy shift and I'm sitting outside in my backyard. So like I live in the middle of Colonna like just the middle of town right.

33:00.38
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah.

33:07.70
Haile Michaelson
Yeah.

33:10.51
wildremedies
And I'm sitting in my backyard and I'm messaging my friend and 1 of my my team members and I'm just like giving her a little download on you know, kind of what's coming up for me and then other thoughts kind of kept coming up and I was like okay I think I need to take some steps in this direction and talk to this person and da-dada da and as I'm sitting there I look up and. This giant fucking Bald Eagle just flew over my head and I was like woo. Just literally started laughing because this kind of stuff happens and I mean but this would like when have you ever seen a huge bald eagle in the middle of downtown and I was just like oh my god so I run upstairs and like I have like my animal deck and I open up.

33:46.27
Haile Michaelson
In the middle of town.

33:53.64
Haile Michaelson
And.

33:56.23
wildremedies
Like what's the meaning of the card and it's all about like yes, you're leveling up and all this new stuff is coming in and new perspective and whatever and art for fro are not God same day I went to the beach and I was just kind of like reflecting and walking by the water and again another Baldy go flow flies over my head and I was just like oh my God This is.

34:01.77
Haile Michaelson
Yeah.

34:10.94
Haile Michaelson
So amazing. Yeah.

34:14.52
wildremedies
This is how you get symbols right? They're like their feelings their epiphanies their ahas their shivers. There's fucking flying Eagles over your head in the town. Um.

34:20.19
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it exactly? Yeah, exactly yeah people often ask ask me about numbers and they're like what does it really mean if you see these numbers and I always say same with the animals and the totems and and stuff and I think sometimes too Even we teach mediumship. Like to our community and stuff in the inside and and I think too I always explain it. It's like sometimes there's something like a guide or something that wants to help you um, create some awareness but the things are there. The numbers are all around. You. The like animals are there. Everything's there. But something's helping you pay Attention. So How something asks you to look up right? something something points you at the like exact numbers or the letters or something and that awareness process is also an interface between your wisdom and sometimes wisdom within guides ancestors and things but same thing with intuition like. Sometimes people talk about like I did I did the intuition foundations and everything changed I This is happened and this was super lucky and all these doors opened and I always say as much as I'd love to take credit for all the things like that you know magic happens when you do do the intuition training and stuff. It's not that it's that all of those doors are always there. And all of those animals and experiences and things are around you but when we ah open up to all of it. We see them right and the gifts were always there and the person was always there and the thing and the the accessing the abundance and everything it's there. It's not falling from the sky when you do your your.

35:54.10
Haile Michaelson
Your good work. It's not that it's just that you're waking up and you're seeing them right and so I always think about that too. My dad passed away eleven years ago um and my brother recently and my dad the wind it just it touches my cheek in a certain way sometimes and I'm like oh my dad is here and then I I always just think you know what do I need to know or what. What is there in that connection and that awareness why did I become aware of him from the wind I mean the wind is on your face all the time but it's because something in you is like listening to something bigger in those moments. Yeah and the animals I think are the same They've got a wisdom for us and the the classic totems and stuff are always there and you can also ask.

36:25.55
wildremedies
Um e.

36:33.63
Haile Michaelson
More within yourself about what is that for me like what does the Bald Eagle mean for me and how do I interpret what other people think it is in my own way same with numerology and everything else. Um, but it's it's really cool isn't it because it's like whether whether it's like almost flies right in front of your face or you something calls you to look up.

36:35.41
wildremedies
A.

36:53.40
Haile Michaelson
It's just a cool experience all of the intuitive ways right? and the more we listen the more they pop out at us. So it's like very in some ways very addictive because you're like this just gets more and more and more magical. Yeah, bring the magic. Yeah right? Yeah yeah.

37:00.62
wildremedies
Um E what.

37:07.24
wildremedies
Like it's so cool. It's so cool. Yeah, last last week I was went for drive to go for paddle board and I was driving through this neighborhood and I just thought to myself actually I spoke it out loud but I was like ah guides I'd really love to see some deer today. Drove around the corner and slammed on my brakes and there were 5 gear in the middle of the road like in 3 seconds and I was just like thanks and you just laugh and you're just like oh my god like how is this real you know like it is like it's real. It is so real. But.

37:25.69
Haile Michaelson
Amazing. Yeah yeah.

37:31.49
Haile Michaelson
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah, yeah, totally and that's the thing you were picking probably picking up on the deer. And the experience and you were like receiving and intuiting and and part of that experience for you was maybe wanting as well like some receiving and some creating and then we we like notice those things and that's it. It's It's exactly that and it can be applied to everywhere in life right? is that we when we have that like. Awareness and we start expanding into other places and being aware of data and content and information everywhere. We start to be able to to have all those hits just like that or preemptively kind of feel something coming at us or you know start to want to create in different ways as a result of it coming and going and that's that's so beautiful and that's.

38:23.87
wildremedies
Um.

38:25.88
Haile Michaelson
That's actually one of the things that I love the most about watching new people. Learn intuition is those experiences and how much magic they're just starting to feel around them. You know that's like always been thiner but they never could see it right? yeah.

38:36.53
wildremedies
Um, yeah, oh my gosh like it's just it's such a I can't imagine living life in in any other way, you know like I'm I'm a pisi's moon. So. It's like I've just always been very. Interested in mysticism and it was. It was always kind of on a surface level and just in the past few years it's just become such a big part of my life and I just I can't imagine life any other way and I feel like we're entering this era where.

38:59.39
Haile Michaelson
Yeah.

39:09.38
wildremedies
More and more people are coming online and understanding that hey there is something more to just like this life. You know started you know, just a lot of like or the concept of the law of attraction and kind of the the science base but now people are really understanding like the spiritual aspect of it and.

39:15.50
Haile Michaelson
Um, yeah, exactly yeah.

39:28.41
wildremedies
And are hungry for it which is amazing. Yeah.

39:30.20
Haile Michaelson
Totally Yeah yeah, amazing. It's time like I Really think it's time mind body Soul medicine and just talk about soul and soul everything. It's just time right and people have been getting there. Um, but not fully diving in or getting there. But.

39:36.10
wildremedies
F the off. Yeah.

39:46.42
Haile Michaelson
Like I don't know there's been a strange like apprehension. But I think that that's breaking down like as we speak right now. So yeah I agree and I feel like it's so much time for it. You know.

39:54.43
wildremedies
Um, yeah, so you mentioned Soul Council tell me tell me about that and like when you teach mediumship and and those types of things. So there's it sounds like there's different levels right? So there's like you. Yeah.

39:58.59
Haile Michaelson
Oh.

40:06.67
Haile Michaelson
Yes.

40:10.30
wildremedies
You could start just kind of like with intuitive work and then I feel like mediumship is like on kind of like the top aspect of that where it's the highest level of like communicating I don't know like to tell me about the variation and the types of things people can expect if they dive into either end of the spectrum.

40:13.54
Haile Michaelson
Yep.

40:20.84
Haile Michaelson
Yeah.

40:27.33
Haile Michaelson
Yes, intuition is like the cement of your house right? It's like we need to ignite intuition and we need to teach intuition like I said super broken down very easy to digest ways. So that people can just understand their wisdom like is this right for me. Yes, or no and even that basic yes or no is kind of the foundation like. do I want to eat this apple Yes, or no do I want to date this person yes or no do I want to say yes to this other person. Do I want to say no to this trip really, you can find your entire alignment by asking your wisdom your intuition every day just is this just yes or no questions. Um. Learning to understand your yes and no takes some practice and I don't know I don't care I owe to arm wrestle anyone like to the ground on anyone who thinks you can learn intuition without meditating because you can't like the way our mental mind is nowadays you have to learn to quiet it and move it to the background to access wisdom for pretty much everyone. Unless they naturally have been quite soil oriented and not really have a mental mind that's leading the ship somehow but meditation is key and not the kind of meditation thats sit down and focus and quiet and be concentrative know the kind that's sit down and enter the body and learn practices to ignite intuition. It's totally different. And we have those they're free on Youtube like a 30 day meditation thing but it goes along with some homework. But once you have your foundation. Um, if you're a practitioner you can teach others that foundation and then you can use some of the ways that you interpret information and even psychic information or intuition around your clients and your work. But.

42:00.24
Haile Michaelson
We sort of take people from there. Some people learn mediumship and psychic work after intuition. That's the process there other people also learn hypnotherapy to be able to help others and access like deep core beliefs that are stuck and unknown to the mind and the person that need to be removed for blocks to be removed or fears to go away sort of all the classic hypnotherapy work. With inner child and regression and all of that we do we teach clinical hypnotherapy that's still accessing the soul though. So we teach it in an intuitive way meaning the practitioner and the scripting that we use is based on intuition so that they can take the client into spaces and they can still use their own intuition as a practitioner. Which is so much more powerful than just like a cut-and dry mental Mindd approach to Hypnotherapy. So so that's next and then soul journeyning I would say is the highest level mediumship is a high level experience. Um, but for some people it's no different from asking is this Apple right? for me, you know they just theyre connectors so they're like. What does his soul. Want to say he wants to say he misses his orange motorcycle. It's like so very easy for them because it's it's just a radio dial like it's just connecting into a certain frequency where those souls can communicate. You could think of it that way but soul journey work is I would say the highest level work and we take clients through it so people come to our platform just to experience soul journey. They've heard about it. Some people hear about the jokes about divorce and stuff but they're like sign me up like I want my man, you know like I've been looking for love or whatever but they're there really for these big reasons like they're bigger calling they are there for love sometimes too and but soul journey work is that I would say one of the highest level.

43:20.10
wildremedies
Um.

43:32.63
Haile Michaelson
Accelerated ways to heal because we are accessing that soul. So the soul knows and the soul knows the alignment within the body and the symptoms and the like disease the person's experiencing and knows the alignment of who they need to be with and what they need to change and who they do need to divorce or leave. It knows the alignment of all of that stuff. So. When we take people into that space between lives and they can access the more pure soul staff like the council which I can talk about that's where the magic is for that person and that's where their life changes fast. You know they've done 20 years of therapy and 50000 psychic sessions and everything else, but. They aren't feeling transformation. They don't know their own answers and they don't understand their alignment. They don't know what path they should be on soul journey does all of that. So. It's like it requires a kind of practitioner who's highly able to be intuitive and hold space and take people to that space. But it also which we teach over time but it also. Is a journey for people for the now because people like you said are ready for solsta they're so ready for it. So it's just not a lot of people have put together that Hypnotherapy is a soul space and through Hypnotherapy we can take people beyond the last time that they died and into the place where they transition to to look around and see what their space is like. And in that space we have our guides and our soul members and soul pod people and we have origin information of the kinds of origins that our energy came from and what that was like for us and how we sometimes divided or had different experiences as a soul and an energy body. We also have access to sort of like a very close soul.

45:05.24
Haile Michaelson
Group closer than a pod which I call but that could be 2 or 3000 people and those are the ones you're drawn to in this time and you're marrying and doing stuff with often. Um, ah to work together on something or have a common goal or just they feel comfortable. They feel like home. Um, but we have a very tight connection of wisdom as well usually with something.

45:11.43
wildremedies
Are you.

45:24.18
Haile Michaelson
Most people see as like a counsel or some wise beings that work with them. Um, and that council is kind of like where souls can say why did what? what am I doing here like what am I working on what the heck is this all about and the information that comes through that is so beautiful and the soul. That we're working with in that soul journey like the person they often then have access in that space to their mom who passed and other wisdom within their ancestry or we do a script with a bonfire and the ancestors and stuff but they can just gather and gather and gather more information about what they're here to heal experience do and practice. Like and be in which is experience. That's more like what that journey offers and then like I said it turns on that frequency and just the things start to arrive in their life. Um, so that's sort of the cascade but it all starts with cement with intuition because. Even for the client we're going to turn that on before we take them into soul journey so that they can interpret well and so that they can reach out into spaces Better. We need mental mind to have had some practice going to the background. We need them to trust the process of their intuition and to understand themselves as a soul like how do you?? you can't teach that to someone from mental mind.

46:20.28
wildremedies
Um, he.

46:38.82
Haile Michaelson
They have to experience that in the body and in sessions where they can understand the difference between them as a body and them as a soul and how they interface and stuff. So yeah, it's like ah a step-by-step process.

46:45.28
wildremedies
Are.

46:52.54
Haile Michaelson
But it's definitely exploding which tells me more all the time like in covid it got big and I thought that's because of covid. But like you said there's something going on I think now with very specifically a real quest from people to understand themselves and their own answers like I used to tell people that they needed that and now they're like coming to us being like. What you just said Krista like I want to know my own answers I've just interviewed a lady and she said that she's like I don't want to go to my psychic anymore. That's it like I don't want to call her I just I always call her I always know what she's going to say I pretty much am always right? But I don't trust it I need help I want to sharpen it right? and it's like it's just time for that. It's great.

47:13.70
wildremedies
Are.

47:26.40
wildremedies
Um, yeah, yeah, well I mean a powerful word for me is sovereignty right in so many different ways like I have huge issues with systems of any kind of stuff what that oppresss right? and.

47:30.78
Haile Michaelson
Yes.

47:34.88
Haile Michaelson
Total.

47:42.90
Haile Michaelson
Um, yeah.

47:45.90
wildremedies
You know it's the same way like I Love Love Love Love Love the mentors that I work with and you know I'll still continue to work with them on some capacity but like I was saying yesterday. So funny. It's like when you wait when you're ready the the teacher appears kind of thing I was literally in a um.

47:57.88
Haile Michaelson
Yes.

48:05.60
wildremedies
Flotation tank yesterday which you can equate to being like a liquid crystal because it's full of magnesium salt right? So I'm just laying there floating in the pitch black and I'm staring up and I'm talking to my guides and I'm just like. How can I actually like like how can I see like how can I have clear communication. What do I need to do and I would like just kept saying it over and over and over again and then I was just doing you know touching up on a little bit of research before our interview today and I saw some of these really cool. Courses that you're doing about having more direct communication with your guides and things and I was like oh okay, thank you ah.

48:39.70
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yep, yep here it is yeah and that's it. It's there like it's there in a stepwise way right? And that's that's so common like kind of how do I talk to you what who are my guides right? when we're in intuition the foundation. That's the biggest question I see from beginners who have been in there like two or three weeks right where they're like. Just want to talk to my guides I want to know what that means and what are guides and how do they feel um and we work through that there we were kind of in psychic work in mediumship. We were kind of in soul journey sometimes people have that desire so much which is so beautiful I love that that desire um that we we do a specific script in Hypnotherapy to just take you to your guides.

49:16.19
wildremedies
I mean.

49:18.11
Haile Michaelson
So that you can experience them a subconscious may paint them out as a figure or an orb or different things but they're going to show you what they're like and show you how it feels more importantly to be connected to them that is really powerful and you and I could do that like you know next week and just hook you up.

49:27.50
wildremedies
In.

49:35.37
Haile Michaelson
And the work to start to listen to them and explore how they feel is is really powerful. A lot of people are stuck in mental Mindd So they're like I know I have guides because I've hurt I feel them I So I Sometimes Channel I put pen to paper and stuff comes out or I write something for a podcast or I start speaking and things happen I know they're there and I know they're working with me but I want to know them like I Just want to see them. And sometimes what happens is mental mind has accidentally fixated on them being like an old wise man you know or like a certain looking and an archangel um appearing thing and we've accidentally decided we need to see them and that they need to look a certain way which blocks the process of like feeling them and something.

50:14.35
wildremedies
Um, a.

50:14.71
Haile Michaelson
Do in hypno as we say like when you're ready, let me know what you see feel or experience because if we say to always to somebody let me know what you see? what do you seecc their mental mind starts freaking out and so I always encourage people even without diving into like foundations or any of the first steps just feel them like.

50:25.71
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

50:33.38
Haile Michaelson
Don't even worry about if you hear them or see them like maybe you just feel them or maybe which is even less Tangible. You just know them. Do you just know them like if they were to hold you and wrap you up for a minute. How would you feel? do you know that feeling and then people are like oh I Totally do like when that's happening I know it like this way. It's just mental mind doesn't love it because mental mind is like if at least they looked like you know an old wise man I would know that they're real or whatever. It's that whole gascade. But you can experience them the way you already experience them as you're seedling just keep experiencing them. Whatever that means to you and then it starts to grow and then sometimes you really will see. I Just saw purple I closed my eyes and everything was purple so that's this guide I know that that they're here and then you just have to get quiet and start listening to the purple and that guide will come through like it'll shift from just a feeling to a to a color or an experience in some other way a tingling on the Palms or right? yeah.

51:25.53
wildremedies
And and.

51:29.30
Haile Michaelson
So you could do that right away right? because you're ready. You're just asking for it and it'll come. You just have to keep like experiencing it and how you already have I find you know? yeah.

51:35.11
wildremedies
Yeah, oh that's so cool but you're right like it would be kind of tough to get that mental aspect outright because yeah or when you're your ego wanting to experience something a certain way right? like.

51:42.93
Haile Michaelson
To quiet. Yep.

51:50.59
Haile Michaelson
Totally.

51:53.68
wildremedies
You know as something of the intuitive people that I work with it's like they they see stuff and I ask them I'm like well who who are these guides and what do they look like right and sometimes they describe it to me and actually I wonder what your experience is like that too because some people who are listening to this podcast might be like.

51:59.90
Haile Michaelson
Oh yeah, yeah.

52:10.89
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah.

52:11.15
wildremedies
What are these women talking about like what what are God All these things right? but and I think over time It's been interpreted as like you know Angels and you know spirit guides and all of these different things. But I think there's like a whole variety of beings I know for myself. Um, when I've asked about it and I try not to ask.

52:17.68
Haile Michaelson
And here.

52:24.70
Haile Michaelson
We have.

52:31.18
wildremedies
Ah, very very often. Um I don't know why I think it's just maybe not as as important, but when I have asked in the past I was kind of shocked because there was one group that had come through who were the orion.

52:49.52
wildremedies
And then another group that were the arturians and I was like so like Aliens really like is this okay all right I Guess that's what we're working with because you know you would think Like. Maybe Ancestors or you know like like human form ancestors that that that type of thing. So like I think that there's a lot out there. Um yeah, like like what what have you experienced like what all is out there supporting people.

53:04.65
Haile Michaelson
Um, yeah.

53:08.58
Haile Michaelson
Totally yeah.

53:17.69
Haile Michaelson
Yeah,, That's a great question like I always talk about it like depending on where your soul origin is like and that's what happens in Soul Journey we go and we explore that. Um I've learned from that that people are from all kinds of different and energy origins like. And they can sort of describe it sometimes like that they are where there's beings with them at home and home makes them cry and I can relate to that they have had this grief and longing for something other than this embodied experience and they don't feel comfortable in their body and when they get home. They're not Elated. They're. Full of grief and loss and pain and they're almost like can't speak for the time when we first touch into that home space sometimes because they miss their being so much and they miss their home so much and this isn't this isn't their favorite place to be like stuck in a body in the three D here and they've chosen it or whatever but they feel a lot of emotion.

53:57.95
wildremedies
Are.

54:04.61
wildremedies
Um, yep.

54:11.40
Haile Michaelson
And that kind of um energy can kind of inhabit different things like there can be guides that sort of bring that energy to the closer to the person. There can be other people here who have passed who are from that same origin space. Um, who when they're on the other side they become a guide for that person. There's. Sort of ancestors and guides and within guides you could just say there's like a huge spectrum of levels and of energies and things that can kind of be supportive ancestors usually feel a little more like cheerleaders and sometimes their burdens um a guide would never be just saying like you go and also dragging your energy. They would be purely there to support the journey. Um, so ancestors in the cheerleader way and in the Burden the Burden some way just means sometimes they have this unfulfilled thing that they're trying to get you to do like. They really wish they could have been a doctor so they really want you to be a doctor um or they really struggled with a certain kind of trauma so they're kind of hanging on because you may have experienced that and they're trying to get you to heal it. Because when we heal we heal above and below just naturally um so ancestors sometimes we need to actually release them give them some flowers wash their hands in the subconscious like in a journey. Um, ask them if there's anything you need to know and send them on their way and explain it to them like this is not I'm not here for your journey I have a journey of my own.

55:24.97
wildremedies
Um, me.

55:26.60
Haile Michaelson
Um, that can happen and then the cheerleader thing is quite very common with Ancestors. They're kind of like we got you you you go? You know it's very unspecific. It's very positive often. Um, but it isn't It isn't really the same as a guide with the the necessarily most of the time I would say anyway with a real pure insight and the high level. Experiences of healing supportive things deep insight sometimes that Psychic Realm or or things that have to do with what that soul is here to experience and most people have guides that um, truly are just sort of energetic they they just feel like a very close energy form that's kind of like. Here for insight and here for support and strength I would say um they can kind of infuse energy for people in an experience like that like they can feel like they're helping them energize. They can feel like they're just there to love them and support them and give them insight and the high level ones like the archangels um are just. Ah, really high vibration. So They're really good at really high level stuff like what we just talked about with soul journey like purpose and mission and the miracles like where you know cancer is healed or a whole life shifts happens and it's just so epic on the other side. That kind of miraculous feeling and all of that it it sort of is a more angelic usually kind of support where people are experiencing really high level stuff but most of the time at at any time I mean when we call them in and those of us trained in psychic Work. We um, kind of can tell you we can feel many many many like we.

56:53.22
Haile Michaelson
We call them in and or we just open to them being there and there's all kinds of support around us all the time which is why people when they do this work. They start to feel less alone as well. If they have that court belief or that fear of being alone or or they were left alone or they've always had that feeling. Um, they do the work and then they just start to you know feel.

57:02.91
wildremedies
Um, me.

57:11.17
Haile Michaelson
Like they're not alone because they're actually starting to feel the amount of support and love around them. So yeah, it's such a good question and it's something humans crave like that's when I think of for my kids too I'm like how do I connect them to their guides like right now because they're like 8 and 10 you know and like show them. That experience of from a feeling perspective so they can stay empowered and stay connected to it and not travel the world feeling alone and scared or like they need to grip onto other people as much. Um, but it's also something people crave so much. It comes up every single training every single person I would say almost want really wants to be more connected to their support. Right? Yeah yeah.

57:48.34
wildremedies
Um, yeah, oh this is so beautiful. Thank you so much I know we're at the end of our time already. But.

57:52.90
Haile Michaelson
So what she say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:59.91
wildremedies
I Know you and I are going to get to connect further. So I'm super excited. Um, but for anyone else who's listening who has their interest peaked and wants to learn more how how can they get in touch.

58:10.64
Haile Michaelson
Yes, the soul strong website is soulstronglife.com and we're all there. The team and myself and then Dr Haley is where my private sessions and some of that work that I work with people on is located but both platforms are good.

58:26.50
wildremedies
Um, yeah and I was actually just taking a look at your site like your team is huge now and like everybody looks just so amazing like I like you have death do less and just like everybody's just like.

58:27.95
Haile Michaelson
Thank you? yeah.

58:33.51
Haile Michaelson
Um, yeah, yeah, thanks Yeah, yeah, they're amazing. Yeah, the community is the best part right? It's like just having we get together for retreats and.

58:41.53
wildremedies
So legit I'm just like I need to know these women. Um.

58:50.26
Haile Michaelson
And do all the things and they're just so special. It's like yes, ulstrong calls in those people who are like you just said their interest is piqued because they're feeling the the pull to know things like their guides and intuition and healing work and helping others and soul level stuff and so it's just such a very cool community of people. It's like yeah the best part you know.

59:07.25
wildremedies
Wonderful. Okay, well we'll have all of your details in the show notes and so forth listening make sure to reach out and yeah, thank you so much for sharing Halium So we we got to connect.

59:10.24
Haile Michaelson
Yeah, yeah, thanks. Krista awesome of course. Yeah, thank you so much for having me. It's great.

59:22.77
wildremedies
Awesome! All right everybody we'll catch you on the next episode.